Rumors for new ride

[Brandon]

Rumors are going around that the park will possibly recieve a new attraction during the off season this year. Post what you feel may join the park for next year.

[Sfftfan]

I think maybe a B&M Flyer w/ a Batman Theme would probably be the next attraction, or another Woodie, who knows its up to Six Flags on what happens next.

[Brett]

First of all SFFT may not get anything at all, but I think that a B&M Batman-Themed flyer sounds awesome. I read that it could also come custom with the first ever flying dive loop, which would be pretty cool. Either a flyer or an Intamin Mega would fit in nicely.

[Jimmy]

I would like to see more steel at the park. But a woodie would really complement the Boardwalk section and based on the popularity of the Rattler, I would expect a second woodie to attract a lot of crowds as well as some more flats.

I would also like to see a Batman-theme B&M Flyer and an Intamin Impulse at the park. But god only knows what or if we're getting anything next year until possibly this fall.

[Brett]

I would like to see a new wooden coaster added to the Boardwalk area like Hurricane said. It would IMO really tie in with the whole boardwalk type themeing there. Is there a lot of land in the Boardwalk area, as I've never been to SFFT before.

[James]

there more land available around the boardwalk area than there is in any other area of the park, lets just put it that way. Being that the boardwalk has an empty plot of land, plus its near parking lot and stuff makes it easy to expand off of the boardwalk. I wish they move the administartion building to the other side of the lot near armadillo beach. (i guess theyd move the employee parking lot as well). And i wish theyd shorten the drop off road. Because than thered be a big plot of land available for a coaster and a boardwalk expansion and they could use the old admin building for either an indoor roller coaster or a new resturant similar to sangerfest halle cept with an "oceanic" theme.

[Brett]

IF there is the land available, I think that SFFT could call upon GCI to build a nice twister style woodie. The majority of their coasters are really compact and twisted, which is what I like about them. But, we'll just have to wait and see.

[Brandon]

I personally really don't care for woodies and would rather see Steel.

[boomerang_freak]

:D i would like to see B&M flyer that is about 200 feet with speeds of 75 mph and a hyper coaster that is about 250 feet with speeds of 90 mph that is what i would like to see. :D

[Brett]

That would be nice, but I would still like a boardwalk woodie :D.

[Sfftfan]

A Stand up or Flyer would fit nicely in the spot of the JR, also a Intamin Hyper could fit in the old Parade grounds behind the Poltergiest ( it's Possible) :D

[Brandon]

The parade grounds are used for group occasions and aren't worth destroying for a new coaster.

[Spurs]

I too have also heard a TON of rumors of a B&M flyer with a Batman theme. I think that would be awesome(if it werent a clone) but if they could, perhaps they could get an original name(i have no problem with the batman theme, its just the coaster enthusiasts wouldnt like it). I am hoping that is what happens.
I also have never heard of a new woodie, but that sounds good too. They should make it quite tall for a woodie(about 130' or so) and make it dive off the cliff and stuff. I just hope Fiesta Texas gets a new roller coaster next year that is worth riding. :D

[Fluidcoasters]

Anyone have any idea about the budget limit?

[Sfftfan]

Originally posted by James@Jul 18 2003, 04:41 AM
hey next time you guys go to SFFT, look in the middle of SKC next to the pond and stuff. theres orange flags. i counted around 5 or 6. im going to take pics of it next time i go but check it out for yourself.
I went today and saw those flags. Imo, I think it's just left overs from SKC

[Spurs]

Yeah, I wouldn't think moving Wipeout for a new roller coaster is very likely. I mean, it is so deep into the boardwalk, its not like right on the edge.

[Fluidcoasters]

Well I dont think it could be a clone seeing as how the area really has its limits on the footprint of the ride. I would have to say that either this ride will be a small clone like an impulse, or a large custom ride. I certainly hope that B&M or Intamin get there hands on this project. I honestly dont see any real reason to put another woodie in this park. Yes it would fit the boardwalk, but the only type of woodie that could fit in that spot would be a twister and the rattler already has that priveledge. An out and back i dont think would have enough room. You might could make it "L" shaped but it would have to be really small. I think the park needs more steel....Big steel! The addition of a flyer would be awesome but i honeslty would preferre a custom hyper from B&M or Intamin.

[Spurs]

That exactly what i was saying on the other forum.... SFFT doesnt have room for the clone of the flyer, so if they get one, it would be custom. I wouldnt mind a hyper, but it most likely wont happen because of Titan at SFOT and Steel Eel at SWSA. I wouldnt mind a BM stand-up.

[Brandon]

I wouldn't mind a standup either. I've only been on one and it was an amazing experience.. and jeez.. it was a bad coaster. I can only imagine a Beemer. I need to get out to more parks.

[James]

beemer stnadups take up a pretty big chunk of land. We'd have to get one with a weird layout if we ever did get one. Or we'd get one as our first parking lot coaster. But i have a feeling that if any park in texas gets a standup, itll be SFOT.

[Spurs]

Well, atleast there will be a GOOD stand-up in Texas.

[Jimmy]

Batman, The Escape just doesn't cut it; the Georgia Scorcher @ SFoG was great however and I would like to see one of those in our area.

[Brandon]

Batman was ok, even tho it was the first Stand Up i went on, the experience of standing up throughout the circut was neat. I'd love to see a beemer stand up.

[James]

on BTE, i almost dont even consider it a standup coaster. that stupid thing between ur legs hurts my "private area". you are basically sitting on your uhhh....yea.

[Brandon]

Originally posted by James@Aug 7 2003, 06:25 PM
on BTE, i almost dont even consider it a standup coaster. that stupid thing between ur legs hurts my "private area". you are basically sitting on your uhhh....yea.
Then when loading you should have pushed the seat down further and it wouldn't have been so bad.

[James]

and brandon, either way, that coaster is rough. I hope all the other stnadups arent like it. Out of the other 2 i rode one of them was worse than BTE and one was better. I havent ever ridden a MAJOR standup. Just three...Shockwave @ PKD, BTE, and Iron Wolf. All of them were lame, Shockwave hurt the most, BTE was just...blah, and Iron Wolf was bearable.

[Kinghunter]

There is a very slim chance of getting a stand up coaster considering that the last stand up was built in 1999 and it was a trend just like many other coaster designs. My guess for 2004 at SFFT is a Flyer or if that doesnt happen maybe a hyper if we are super lucky :D Or it could be just another year were they spend all there money on shows :(

[Brandon]

We'd be lucky for a flat ride even.

[James]

With the waterpark being so popular, we may just be looking at a waterpark expansion next season along with SFNO. We have room next to RRE where those slides used to be, and we have room behind the 6 chuter.

[Jimmy]

I wouldn't be surprised if SFFT expanded their waterpark and/or added another upcharge attraction; of course more shows are inevitable. Maybe even more flats and family attractions. Still not sure if we'll get another coaster next year.

[Brandon]

Theres not much room by Road Runner.. Its not enough to build a huge expansion.

[James]

they used to have 2 slide complexes there which housed 4 different slides. theres still enough room. They even still have all the cement in there from where the old slides were. plus theres room behind the the old plot which they could use as well.

[Jimmy]

Are you referring to the pair of water slides and another pair of pipeline slides; I remember the park had them a while back next to the RRE.

[James]

yea i am. they had two enclosed water slides and they had the "racing" ones too.

[James]

the shows do get the majority of the budget....and no i dont work at a dippin dots stand. i dont think SFFT even has dippin dots.

[Brandon]

No doubt the shows take up a huge chunk of the budget. The shows are a vital point in the parks sucess.

[James]

i dont work there but i know employees. and even if i didnt know any employees....its just common sense.

[Jimmy]

Originally posted by James@Aug 13 2003, 06:03 PM
i dont think SFFT even has dippin dots.
I don't think I can find dippin' dots anywhere at the park either. (lol) I've seen them at Sea World though.

[James]

Originally posted by Hurricane+Aug 14 2003, 01:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hurricane @ Aug 14 2003, 01:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-James@Aug 13 2003, 06:03 PM
i dont think SFFT even has dippin dots.
I don't think I can find dippin' dots anywhere at the park either. (lol) I've seen them at Sea World though. [/b][/quote]
lol yeah SW does have them if i recall correctly. SFOT also has them but its a huge ripoff. its like 5.00 for this TINY cup. ridiculous....

[slimslaman]

I saw the dippin dots in the Crackaxle section by the train and Wagon Wheel. Also, so one cart that was at a show with dip n dots.

[Brandon]

Schlitterbahn NB west has them.

[Sfftfan]

I bought dippin Dots the last time I went to FT

[Spurs]

Ok, guys lets get back to the subject of rumors, okay? Lol. Anyway, had anyone heard anything new that might be of good value to hear? (referring to Fiesta TExas)

[Brandon]

Nope

[Sfftfan]

What about a Impulse, Something like Wicked Twister right near the RRE. Also I heard there is a height limit in Bexar County. Does anyone know about it?

[James]

i dunno what you heard about our height restrictions but i have no clue what it is.

[Spurs]

I havent, but I hope it's not an Impulse, because I want something custom for the boardwalk. But, if it is an Impulse, I hope they make it a record breaker.

[Sfftfan]

I don't care what we get as long as its worth riding.

[James]

Originally posted by Spurs@Aug 15 2003, 04:18 PM
I havent, but I hope it's not an Impulse, because I want something custom for the boardwalk. But, if it is an Impulse, I hope they make it a record breaker.
impulses are excellent roller coasters and its hard to make one when its not a clone, theres only so many ways you can manufacture one so far. But they wont waste that big chunk of land on the boardwalk on an impulse. If we ever did get one, theyd put it elsewhere in the park on a plot of land that nothing else could really fit on.

[Spurs]

Okay, back to the main subject! I am going to Fiesta Texas next weekend. Maybe there will be something there????

[James]

no if we get a coaster youll PROBABLY see track in september. late september. and late august-early september they start prepping the site.

[Topthrilldragsterdude]

Why do you think they took the joker down?

Personaly I think they are going to build a Batman. I have been Seeing a whole lot of batman merchandice

[Spurs]

That doesnt really mean anything. The Batman logo is just a Six Flags Inc. trademark or whatever. But, I also think they will add a Batman flyer, not a BTR clone because like James has said many many times before, Sea World already has a clone.

[Brandon]

I've seen batman merchandise in the park for quite a while. It just didn't happen recently..

[James]

Originally posted by Topthrilldragsterdude@Aug 22 2003, 12:37 PM
Why do you think they took the joker down?


i'm pretty sure it was because of a trillion headaches and complaints which lead to unpopularity and virtually no line.

[Spurs]

So, Anyway back to the main subject. I am going to SFFT this Saturday. Where should I look for track parts and which rides will have the longest lines?

[Jimmy]

I would look for long lines on the Rattler, Scream, Boomerang, Scooby's Ghostblasters, and Bugs' White Water Rapids.

And just to let everyone know, I (for one) REALLY miss the Joker's Revenge; it is a sentimental favorite coaster of mine and I would still ride it to this day if it were still there. (Go ahead and laugh; I don't care. :) )

[Spurs]

Thanks Hurricane! are you back in town? Well, anyway, where should i look for track parts?????????????

[Jimmy]

Yes, I'm back in Corpus Christi; just started the fall semester at TAMUCC.

[James]

Originally posted by Spurs@Aug 28 2003, 02:36 PM
where should i look for track parts?????????????
I doubt there'd be any track parts considering the park themselves probably dont even know if they're gonna get anything next season.

[Spurs]

Thanks for your sarcasm lol!

[coasterphotos]

Originally posted by James@Aug 28 2003, 11:01 PM
I doubt there'd be any track parts considering the park themselves probably dont even know if they're gonna get anything next season.
That is a very accurate statement.

[CoasterPimp]

I don't think SFFT will possibly get anything for 2004..Six Flags Corp is in such bad shape..I hope things turnaround next year for corporate.

[Brandon]

Where have you been? When has six flags corp. never been in bad shape?

[James]

prior to premier they were ok....

[Brett]

Personally, I would rather have some flats instead of a new coaster. If SFFT were to get a coaster, lets say a flyer, that would be awesome. But something like a Huss Flyaway, or even a Modial Top Scan would be awesome. Chances are that won't happen, but we'll just have to see how things go. One more thing, when I went to SFFT earlier this year, I noticed lots of flags right by the pond by SKC. Does anyone know what they are doing there? Possibly some wiring stuff?

[James]

I already pointed out that those flags were there Brett but i think they are just leftovers from SKC's construction.

[Jimmy]

I guess I never noticed the flags on the SKC site. And if there are flags, I wouldn't expect any future construction there.

[Spurs]

I agree, there is basically no room there anyway. I really hope Fiesta Texas gets something new next year besides shows.

[James]

actually, theres quite a bit of room. not enough from for a whole coaster, but for sections of one. e.g, a hyper coaster. but i still wouldnt think to much of those flags cause like i said, i think theyre just SKC leftovers....

[Spurs]

I bet they could fit a B&M flyer AND an Impulse on the Boardwalk area, I think they have a lot of room there!

[Jimmy]

An impulse would fit, but a flyer probably wouldn't. S-UF at SFoG takes up a lot of space and wouldn't appear to fit on the boardwalk section.

[Spurs]

YO Hurricane, thats why the rumors point towards a CUSTOM flyer!! :P

[Brandon]

Correct me if i'm wrong but i read somewhere that it's too hot for an impulse down here.. Something about running the LIM's every few seconds..

[Brett]

Well Poltergeist and Mr. Freeze both use LIM's to launch their trains so why would an Impulse be any different?

[Fluidcoasters]

Well induction current only heats up in high mechanical resistance which in this case, a 6 ton train from static to 50 is a big shove. But i dont see how climatic heat would make much of a difference seeing as how the electric heat is like 10 times hotter than any Texas summer day and would still get that hot regardless of where it is.

[coasterphotos]

The hotter it is outside, the harder it is to cool off the LIM's. Mr. Freeze had problems when it first opened and they had to install blowers to cool them off faster. You can see some of them in the station after the train launches.

[Brett]

I guess Poltergeist wouldn't have as much as a problem as Mr. Freeze does as it doesn't launch as fast. But couldn't they just do the same with an Impulse if one were to be built? Kind of reminds me of how Titan's wheels overheat, so they have to spray water on them after each cycle.

[Jimmy]

Then there is also the maintainance issue as it is costs quite a bit to operate a LIM-powered coaster. Having more than one of those could be expensive to maintain.

[coasterphotos]

Don't know the money amount, but I've been told that it costs approximately 3x as much for 1 launch on Polty / Freeze as it does for Greezed Lightnin' and there's only a 5-10mph speed difference.

[Spurs]

Gosh, thats why I dont think it is very likely for FT to get an Impulse. I hope they get a flyer next year, GCI woodie, or any new kind of really fun and exciting flat.

[Fluidcoasters]

Originally posted by coasterphotos@Sep 1 2003, 12:19 AM
Don't know the money amount, but I've been told that it costs approximately 3x as much for 1 launch on Polty / Freeze as it does for Greezed Lightnin' and there's only a 5-10mph speed difference.

Probably cuz its not a lim launch mechanism. Lims need high voltage generators working non stop which is where the money goes into. But the fly-wheel launch requires frequent clutch replacements.

[coasterphotos]

I know the reason it costs more to launch the LIM's, but even with the clutch replacements, running cost of a flywheel launch system compared to a LIM launch system is still a lot cheaper.

[Jimmy]

Let's see:

Greezed Lightning: 0-55 MPH in about 4 sec utilizing mechanical fly-wheel launch.
Poltergeist: 0-60 MPH in 3.4 sec with LIMs.
Mr. Freeze: 0-70 MPH in 2.8 sec also using LIMs.

I would also think that more intense launch would require more maintainence. So Mr. Freeze would be more expensive to operate than Poltergeist. Is that correct?

[Spurs]

Yeah, I think so. Hurricane, you mentioned that a flyer seems too big for Fiesta Texas. What about a custom one????

[coasterphotos]

Originally posted by Hurricane@Sep 1 2003, 01:44 PM
Greezed Lightning:* 0-55 MPH in about 4 sec utilizing mechanical fly-wheel launch.
Poltergeist:* 0-60 MPH in 3.4 sec with LIMs.
Mr. Freeze:* 0-70 MPH in 2.8 sec also using LIMs.
Acutally, the spec on Mr. Freeze is 0-70 in 3.7 seconds. And while Mr. Freeze goes faster, Poltergeist actually has a more intense launch due to the placement of the LIM's. It has more of an initial kick than Freeze does.

[Jimmy]

Originally posted by coasterphotos@Sep 1 2003, 10:19 PM
Acutally, the spec on Mr. Freeze is 0-70 in 3.7 seconds.
Hmmm....I didn't know that. I wonder where I got 2.8 seconds from?

Actually, what I meant to say was that the magnitude of acceleration of trains on Mr. Freeze was greater than the acceleration of that on Poltergeist.

And yes the launch on Mr. Freeze is surprisingly less intense than that of Poltergeist despite the difference in speed.

And Spurs, as for the custom flyer, I'm not sure how or if a custom flyer would fit somewhere on boardwalk unless they build it out towards the parking lot or use the top of the cliff. I'm sure there probably isn't any available land on the boardwalk for a typical S-UF. Maybe elsewhere in the park there could be room. But I agree with everyone else in that I wouldn't count on a new flyer next year. There probably was never even plans for a flyer at the park in the first place.

[Spurs]

I bet my bottom dollar there was plans. Why else would all of these rumors be flying off?? Someone who knew MUST have started it somewhere, making someonw promise they wouldnt tell, and then that person going and telling the world. I bet one could fit on the boardwalk area. They even have all those Batman cups this year. I know earlier in a different post I said it was probably just a trade mark item that they have had for years. But now that I think of it, this is the first year I have ever seen those cups at Fiesta Texas. There HAS to be reason for them. I bet it was planned for this year, but Six Flags told them one more year. Why? Because spoiled little Magic Mountain HAS TO HAVE A NEW COASTER EVERY SINGLE YEAR. We should have gotten that flyer this year, and Fiesta Texas knows it too. I don't necessarily mean if they get a new roller coaster next year it HAS to be a flyer, I would like more variety, like another woodie or a stand-up or even a really cool new flat. A flat isn't too hard now is it??? They are usually less than 2 million dollars!!!!!

[coasterphotos]

The Flyer was and still is nothing more than a rumor. There were no plans for the park to get one for last year and currently are none for them to get one this year. It's pretty easy to start a rumor these days with the internet and all.

Just because there is different merchandise doesn't mean they are getting a new ride of that theme. It's there because it sells and makes money.

[Brandon]

I've noticed the batman merchandise for years now. Your mind lets you see what it wants to see.. So they've been there the whole time and now that you think theres a Batman flyer.. You'll see them. I hate when something like that happens.

And alot of flats cost more than two million btw..

[Panther Modern]

I can tell you with absolute confidence that the smaller parks (i.e. not the "big 4") do not have any idea what is going on for 2004 as of yet.

I can tell you why every park has the batman and superman cups: they make money. "MOMMY! BUY ME THIS! IT HAS SUPERMAN ON IT!"

I can tell you I'm pretty sure where the flyer rumor started: Monroe White III. Does he know for sure? Absolutely not. How can I verify this? Come on, I maybe an asshole, but I'm also the worlds biggest AstroWorld suckup.. I know tons of stuff about many of the parks... especially the Texas parks. Why do people start rumors? Who knows, but I started on once just for kicks.. and it worked. People bought it left and right... I just had to prove people will believe a fantastic story.

Fiesta Texas has had a fantastic year with no new rides. You think they need to justify putting in a 15 million dollar rollercoaster when attendance went up without any investment (and the removal of a ride)?

While it is possible between now and January things will change.. right now, I can tell you without a doubt, SFFT and SFAW each have not been told anything for 2004 capital.

I'm not trying to piss anyone off, I'm just saying let's be realistic folks.. it's layoffs everywhere.. just pickup a newspaper. 2004 IS going to be a slim year.

[James]

Originally posted by Panther Modern@Sep 1 2003, 08:24 PM
I can tell you with absolute confidence that the smaller parks (i.e. not the "big 4") do not have any idea what is going on for 2004 as of yet.

I can tell you why every park has the batman and superman cups: they make money. "MOMMY! BUY ME THIS! IT HAS SUPERMAN ON IT!"

I can tell you I'm pretty sure where the flyer rumor started: Monroe White III. Does he know for sure? Absolutely not. How can I verify this? Come on, I maybe an asshole, but I'm also the worlds biggest AstroWorld suckup.. I know tons of stuff about many of the parks... especially the Texas parks. Why do people start rumors? Who knows, but I started on once just for kicks.. and it worked. People bought it left and right... I just had to prove people will believe a fantastic story.

Fiesta Texas has had a fantastic year with no new rides. You think they need to justify putting in a 15 million dollar rollercoaster when attendance went up without any investment (and the removal of a ride)?

While it is possible between now and January things will change.. right now, I can tell you without a doubt, SFFT and SFAW each have not been told anything for 2004 capital.

I'm not trying to piss anyone off, I'm just saying let's be realistic folks.. it's layoffs everywhere.. just pickup a newspaper. 2004 IS going to be a slim year.
amen....

[Spurs]

Well SORRY. I didn't know i was SO NIAVE!!!!

[James]

he wasnt putting you or anyone else down. He was making a point, and he did it quite well might i add.

[Spurs]

I know, it was a between a somewhat over-sensitive and sarcastic comment. I know yall are right about Fiesta Texas most likely not getting a new coaster next year, but hey, I am in denial.

[James]

ive been in denial since CB was taken away from us and sent to Spain.....it'll be okay....

[calereneau]

As a member on the SFH.com boards...I have to say that 90% of what Panther Modern says is correct. I have high hopes for SFFT because out of all the parks in Texas, I enjoy it the most. The overall experience is just better than the other two. Astroworld would be lucky to get new trashcans next year after the year we had this year. But you guys might just get something that will suprise you. Keep hoping...

And Monroe IS a jerk. Panther Modern was right about that too.

[Spurs]

I will never lose hope. Really James? I thought it was gonna be a dumb kiddie coaster.

[James]

it was a family coaster...not exactly a kiddie coaster, but pretty much. its not as big as RRE but is bigger than Der Rollerschuhcoaster....so its a family coaster.
btw--who is this monroe guy panther and calereneau speak of??

[calereneau]

He was a member on the SFH.com boards until he was banned...

He's a punk kid who likes to think that he's better than everyone else. For fun he starts up rumors on various websites and watches them spread.

Panther Modern can tell you more about him. He's had more encounters than I.

[Spurs]

I hate people like that. I started a rumor once for the fun of it, but I mean it was OUTRAGEOUS. I put something like a five hundred foot coaster with twenty five loops lol. well, i guess I am being a hypocrite so i guess I hate myself

[Spurs]

HELLO? IS SFFTNET EVen STILL GOING NO ONE NEver POSTS ANYMORE IT IS SO ANNOYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[James]

who knows where people are. Texas boards usually dont get as much action as other ones because we dont have a whole lot of avid internet enthusiasts online. Thyre out there, just hard to find. ;). And yes, SFFTNet is still going, obviously. and we're planning on an update soon so.....keep your eyes open. We've just been extremley busy with school and basically just having a life. SORRY GUYS...but When frightfest rolls around, I'll "bust out" with the digi and be sure to keep you guys updated with FT events during Fright Fest and maybe a couple other updates as well. If you have any suggestions as to what you'd like to see here on FTNet, be sure to let us know in the feedback and updates forum.

[Jimmy]

I'm still here!

[James]

thats always nice to know, Hurricane. ;)

[Spurs]

Lol. Well, it already is mid-September and still no sign of track pieces, an announcement, or construction. Well, if they don't get a new coaster, maybe they can get an S&S Sky Swatter. I really want to go on one of those.

[James]

i doubt theyd get a skyswatter being that the only other one in the world is just 3 hours down the road. Thats AWs claim to fame at the moment, we wouldnt take that away from them. and although i still think we wont get a roller coaster, or anything except new shows for that matter, its still not to late for signs of a coaster. i didnt get to ride the ferris wheel last time i was there so i didnt get to peak into the warehouse parkinglot where coaster pieces are usually stored. But, if there isnt anything there by the next time i go there (prolly really late september), then we're almost certain not to get anything. but hey, ya never know! ;)
oh btw--FT took 2 kiddie rides (daffys duckaneer and some other one) out of storage just recently and it looks to be that theyre shipping them out to another park. Id expect to see lots of "ride swapping" for 2004.

[Spurs]

Well, dont forget to check James!! Anyway what do you mean "ride swapping"? Do you know something we dont? ;) I noticed that Daffy's Ducaneer was removed...but what else would Fiesta Texas swap for that little thing??? And about the Skyswatter, I just dont wanna go to Astroworld to ride it!! ;)

[James]

ride swapping is when parks trade rides and the GP usually takes it as "oh the old ride mustve sucked, lets go check the new one out b/c it must be even better" which results in more attendence which brings more money. The ride a park trades for may or may not be any better then the old one, but to the GP, anything "new" to that park must be something good. I am in no way saying that Fiesta Texas will get a ride, Im just pointing out that two of our kiddie rides in storage were taken out of storage and are sitting next to the administration building. Im just saying, they are probably going to either send them off to another park as part of the "ride swapping" program or place them somewhere in FT. who knows, but thats just my GUESS. Daffys Duckaneer was taken out in 2000 or 2001 for whatever reason. And as for that other kiddie flat sitting there, i dont know what it is. I just saw the top of it. Daffys Duckaneer is a kiddie swinging ship incase you didnt know. BTW--even though we may contribute our rides to the ride swapping doesnt mean we will get anything in return. e.g, Jokers Revenge sent to SFNO....no ride in return. Daffys Duckaneer and another kiddie flat may be sent off to another park and probably no ride in return, Canyon Blaster sent off to WBMW Madrid, no ride in return. It sucks that we get the bad end of it but hey, business is business.
oh yea and at this point in time, im just as clueless about what will happen next year at Fiesta Texas as you are so, no, i dont know anything you dont know about next season. My best guess would be nothing but new shows. w00t. I dont really mind all that much, Id love to see a coaster or even a big flat ride, but the shows at Fiesta Texas are awesome so its not so bad.

[Spurs]

Well, thanks. Thats really too bad, because I was checking out Delirium at PKI on a coaster show, that ride looks really fun. But, we already have Frisbee. If we don't get a coaster next year, its not that bad, because we have to get one sooner or later anyway. I already love the coasters SFFT has anyway. SKC- :wub:

[Jimmy]

Spurs, how do like the Sea World coasters (Great White and Steel Eel). I always do a double-header (SF and SW the same day) to get the most of my day. Sea World could also add coasters or new rides sometime as well.

And just so you know, it's not to late yet for construction for next year; for instance SFGAd didn't begin their construction of Superman - Ultimate Flight until January of the opening year.

[Spurs]

OH okay, Hurricane. Well, I have never been on the Sea World coasters,(been on BTR clone though), but that will change next march or so when my middle school of 33, yes 33 students will go to Sea World for a Science field trip, so I wil ltell you then!! :P Well, I hope they just have good attendence next year even if they don't get something new..........

[James]

Originally posted by Hurricane@Sep 14 2003, 11:27 AM

And just so you know, it's not to late yet for construction for next year; for instance SFGAd didn't begin their construction of Superman - Ultimate Flight until January of the opening year.
yes but SFGADV opens much later than we do. They have more time to construct. We open in early March, they open in Late April. Thats more than a full month more to construct.

[coasterphotos]

In 1999, Fiesta Texas didn't start building Boomerang and Scream until after the first of the year and they were ready opening day. Poltergeist didn't start construction till like March and it opened at the end of May. Just because there isn't anything there now, doesn't mean it's too late. But still, I wouldn't expect much at any of the 3 TX Six Flags parks next year from what I've heard.

[Jimmy]

The warm weather here during the off season is also favorable for quicker construction process than it is for the park in the North.

[Spurs]

and that is a good advantage to have!!! Anybody seen or heard anything lately???

[Jimmy]

Six-Flags traditionally make their announcements sometime in November, when everything is mapped out. So by the end of next month, we'll pretty much know what Six-Flags has in store for their respective parks.

I did hear reports that the Shockwave that was at SFGAm is going to SFNO. Not sure how accurate that is though.

[Spurs]

I heard that too, from Screamscape, and they aren't very reliable. But, that sounds very true because its the only park besides a few others who has room for that thing.

[Jimmy]

Originally posted by Hurricane@Oct 11 2003, 06:17 PM
I did hear reports that the Shockwave that was at SFGAm is going to SFNO.
And it makes perfect sense too! After the park had its breakout season with the Six-Flags transformation along with the expansion/upgrade of the park and some major new additions, SFNO could follow up with something big the next year.

We've seen this happen to other parks in the past: SFA, SFFT, SFMW, and SFWoA added another massive attraction the year following their respective Six-Flags transformations.

Of course we don't know for sure just yet if SFNO is getting Shockwave, but those recent trends by Six-Flags might give us the idea.

[Spurs]

I remember that....in 1999, that was my first trip to SFFT since before it was a SF park, the new rides were Poltergeist and Boomerang, because those had the longest lines, and I also had the brochure that said they had gotten 25 new rides.

Anyway, I hope FT gets something new

[poltergeist33]

EVERYONE, LISTEN UP. WHEN I WAS ON THE ROAD YESTERDAY, I SAW BRIGHT ORANGE TRCH PIECES HEADING TO SFFT ON THE BACK OF A TRUCK! I COULDN'T TELL WHAT THEY WERE BUT THEY LOOKED LIKE B&M. -

[T_Biggs]

I've heard on another forum that someone saw the same thing in Texas. Would be cool if it was a new B&M for SFFT, but I'm not getting my hopes up. And how do you know it was headed to SFFT? Did you see it pull in their parking lot?

[James]

as far as sfft goes.... dont get ur hopes up. it would make sense for the park to get a new ride b/c it would compliment the opening of the new mall in 2004 quite well and we havent seen a coaster in 4 years... but, with the financial situation sfi is in at the moment, i wouldnt count on it. but also, everyone please remember we have 2 major theme parks in this city and when coming from the north, you have to travel on the same highway to get to either one of them so.... if there WAS oprange track, it doesnt necisarily(sp) belong to SFFT...

[Spurs]

IT could be for a traveling fair. Doesn't S.A. get several rodeo fairs or stuff like that every year?

[James]

SA livestock show and rodeo isnt until february or march. bexar county livestock show isnt until janruary. and if ppl are saying there was B&M track, on three flatbed trucks... it isnt for a fair/rodeo.

[Jimmy]

I've never seen orange-colored B&M track.